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he lost to john mccain that year. but that year, 2008, also was not john mccain's first effort at winning the republican presidential nomination. he had run before as well. he had run in the year 2000, when he lost to george w. bush. and while that john mccain campaign and his loss that year has mostly been remembered for the egregiously racist dirty tricks played against john mccain in the south carolina primary that year, that's mostly what we think of when we think of him losing to george w. bush that year, now what is starting to become the more salient thing about that losing run, about that losing attempt at winning the republican presidential nomination, what seems more salient now is who john mccain's national co-chair was for that run. it was republican senator chuck hagel. there he is. you can see him in the little circle on the left there. with john mccain's entourage as john mccain was getting ready to launch his presidential bid back in 2000. this is the same chuck hagel who is president obama's nominee f
he lost to john mccain that year. but that year, 2008, also was not john mccain's first effort at winning the republican presidential nomination. he had run before as well. he had run in the year 2000, when he lost to george w. bush. and while that john mccain campaign and his loss that year has mostly been remembered for the egregiously racist dirty tricks played against john mccain in the south carolina primary that year, that's mostly what we think of when we think of him losing to george w....
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why is john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home, the most famous of them is angrier than ever. why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel, what is it about? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself, that some went and some didn't? is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what burns so deeply in john mccain these days? it seems to excite those who knew nothing about vietnam but want to replay it. we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him all those years, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation back in 2000, but against a guy who fought against fear and rallied against wounds just like he did in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietna
why is john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home, the most famous of them is angrier than ever. why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel, what is it about? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself, that some went and some didn't? is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what burns so deeply...
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what's your reaction to what senator john mccain said about this? obviously you've been working with him and know -- in terms of immigration. i don't think you've been working together on some of that other stuff so much. >> i think john said it well. i am cautiously optimistic and as someone who spent years between the house and the senate, trying to get comprehensive immigration reform i'm cautiously optimistic. i see the right spirit. i see things that were once off the table for agreement and discussion being on the table with a serious pathway forward. of course, it will have the enhancement of the border security. we've done already a lot with more customs agents. we have more border patrol. more physical impediment than any time in history but using greater technology, focusing our resources go a better way is something that we'll achieve. looking at making sure employers don't hire individuals who are undocumented, thinking about future flows and how we take care of the american economy by that. but also very clearly having a pathway to earn
what's your reaction to what senator john mccain said about this? obviously you've been working with him and know -- in terms of immigration. i don't think you've been working together on some of that other stuff so much. >> i think john said it well. i am cautiously optimistic and as someone who spent years between the house and the senate, trying to get comprehensive immigration reform i'm cautiously optimistic. i see the right spirit. i see things that were once off the table for...
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the toughest questions came from senator john mccain. >> will you please answer the question? were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no. >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well, do you think senator hagel is qualified to take the top post at the pentagon? why or why not? tell us what you think on the "nightline" facebook page, or you can tweet us. thanks for watching abc news. "good morning america" will be here waiting for you in the morning with the latest on the buildup to super bowl sunday. we're always online at abcnews.com. good night, america.
the toughest questions came from senator john mccain. >> will you please answer the question? were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no. >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well, do you think senator hagel...
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the treatment of john kerry by john mccain versus chuck hagel and john mccain is night and day. we have to leave it there, but after the break top republicans m house and senate part way on a key debt ceiling bill. will the intraparty scism end in heartburn or heart break? for over 75 years people have saved money with...ohhh... ...with geico... ohhh...sorry! director's voice: here we go. from the top. and action for over 75 years people have saved money with gecko so.... director's voice: cut it! ...what...what did i say? gecko? i said gecko? aw... for over 75 year...(laughs. but still trying to keep it contained) director's voice: keep it together. i'm good. i'm good. for over 75...(uncontrollable lahtuger). what are you doing there? stop making me laugh. vo: geico. saving people money for over seventy-five years. gecko: don't look at me. don't look at me. >>> the republican party is engaged in a fierce game of tug-of-war with itself. last week after speaker john boehner pleaded with his party to vote for a bill to extend the debt limit for three months, 33 members broke rank.
the treatment of john kerry by john mccain versus chuck hagel and john mccain is night and day. we have to leave it there, but after the break top republicans m house and senate part way on a key debt ceiling bill. will the intraparty scism end in heartburn or heart break? for over 75 years people have saved money with...ohhh... ...with geico... ohhh...sorry! director's voice: here we go. from the top. and action for over 75 years people have saved money with gecko so.... director's voice: cut...
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john mccain before he was part of the d.r.e.a.m. act, he was part of it. timing is everything. now after they got their butt kicked they want go ahead and follow through what they started years and years ago. unfortunately the latino immigration is part of it. if you want to be an american, you're part of the game. >> listen to bobby are jindal. he's talking to his fellow republicans. >> we must not be part of the party who protects the well off so they can keep their toys. we've got stop being the stupid party. i'm serious. it's time for a new republican party that talks like adults. >> he's not the only one giving that sentiment. paul ryan gave a similar sentiment this morning on "meet the press." ana, is this what your party needs? tough love? >> yes. we need to not sugarcoat it, we need to learn the lessons of the last election. i think governor jindal is right. i think paul ryan is right. i was at the republican retreat ten days ago at the house members and i can tell you we heard a lot of this. there is an acknowledgement within the republican party that we have to reboot
john mccain before he was part of the d.r.e.a.m. act, he was part of it. timing is everything. now after they got their butt kicked they want go ahead and follow through what they started years and years ago. unfortunately the latino immigration is part of it. if you want to be an american, you're part of the game. >> listen to bobby are jindal. he's talking to his fellow republicans. >> we must not be part of the party who protects the well off so they can keep their toys. we've...
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from the mouths of john mccain and lynn say graham as they slashed away at war hero hagel. badgering the witness is too nice a description. the haushtion swirled like buzzards sweeping down, pecking and pulling at the skin of a former colleague who dared to say this country's been too ready to enter wars the american people quickly wish we'd never gotten into. what's with this hatred? now centered in the american sunbelt. what do we make of this poll shows two out of three texas republicans now want our president impeached? why the cussedness, why the range war, why the hatred of anyone who dares to stand with obama? why can't politics be a batter matter of belief and honest disagreement, not hatred? why the sick little intermurals we saw today? we begin with senator jeanne shaheen of new hampshire. i want you to watch this back and forth between john mccain and the witness today, chuck hagel. let's take a look. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or
from the mouths of john mccain and lynn say graham as they slashed away at war hero hagel. badgering the witness is too nice a description. the haushtion swirled like buzzards sweeping down, pecking and pulling at the skin of a former colleague who dared to say this country's been too ready to enter wars the american people quickly wish we'd never gotten into. what's with this hatred? now centered in the american sunbelt. what do we make of this poll shows two out of three texas republicans now...
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in terms of benghazi on libya, the united states government, and this includes john kerry and john mccain, helped the terrorist to overthrow the khaddafi regime. mr. khadafy had the terrorist groups under control until qatar and saudi 0 rupiah -- saudi arabia decided to arm troubles and terrorists -- the rebels and terrorists. now we moved to syria. hillary clinton has been the mother of the terrace that are terrorizing syria now. -- terrorists that are terrorizing syria now. she made sure that they got training to blow up civilians in syria. she has been an utter failure. host: columbus, ga., on the democrats want -- georgia, on the democrats line. caller: i have lived a portion of my life abroad. i have learned to see my country, america, through the eyes of those who view us from the outside in, instead of the inside out. i am also a bureaucrat. i am retired bureaucrat. one of the things i learned as a child is that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. i also learned that my feelings, my emotions and not mean that i know. it just means that i feel, i think, and i believe. host: to
in terms of benghazi on libya, the united states government, and this includes john kerry and john mccain, helped the terrorist to overthrow the khaddafi regime. mr. khadafy had the terrorist groups under control until qatar and saudi 0 rupiah -- saudi arabia decided to arm troubles and terrorists -- the rebels and terrorists. now we moved to syria. hillary clinton has been the mother of the terrace that are terrorizing syria now. -- terrorists that are terrorizing syria now. she made sure that...
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i think john mccain and lindsey graham's concerns are real. in the end they probably will not carry the day, but in a critical time with the threats we face, it's totally legitimate, whoever the nominee was, to be grilled on what their point of. >> one final issue before we go. big night, the super bowl, the ads have already been sold, $3.8 million to $4 million for a 30-second ad. this year a little something different. we've seen so many before the game. my favorite is going to nominate it first, the volkswagen come on be happy ad. >> yeah. wicked cup, mr. james. julia, turn the frown the other way around. >> hey, you're from minnesota, right? >> yes, the land of 10,000 lakes. >> jorge, your pick? >> godaddy.com. that between the model and the nerd went on and on and on. i think it was really raw and will be a great commercial. >> there's bar rafaeli and she's going to lip-lock with that young man that you see right there. >> you cut it. >> all right. well, the mercedes ad with the devil, willem dafoe as the devil caught my attention mostly
i think john mccain and lindsey graham's concerns are real. in the end they probably will not carry the day, but in a critical time with the threats we face, it's totally legitimate, whoever the nominee was, to be grilled on what their point of. >> one final issue before we go. big night, the super bowl, the ads have already been sold, $3.8 million to $4 million for a 30-second ad. this year a little something different. we've seen so many before the game. my favorite is going to nominate...
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another between senator john mccain and chuck hagel, this one regarding syria. let's listen in, please. >> do you believe that we should be more engaged in syria? >> i know this administration is very engaged in working with its partners. >> so you don't think we should do more? >> well, when you say do more, do you mean -- >> do you think we should put -- make sure that the syrians get the weapons they need and perhaps establish a no-fly zone do you think we do? >> i believe that part of our review is looking at those options. >> it's been 22 months, senator hagel. >> colonel, how would you, again, assess that exchange? and also, the dynamic of two vietnam vets. there have been folk who is said there's bad blood between them. senator mccaskill said things are personal here, maybe an endorsement not coming the way of john mccain that he would have liked from hagel. is this personal or are we looking at as jim pointed out substantive issues and questions that hagel should be able to answer on syria, iran, iraq? >> there's no doubt about the fact that senator mcca
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. >> senator john mccain said any bill must include a pathway to citizenship. senator bob menendez agreed and he gave four reasons why. >> americans support it in poll after poll. latino voters expect it. the democrats want it and republicans need it. >> is that really what this boils down to? >> well i think that the topic of comprehensive immigration reform is one i have worked on for more than ten years in the congress. and it is time. i mean, i just think that for so many reasons for our community and for our economy and our safety and security comprehensive immigration reform must include a pathway to citizenship to bring people out of the shadows. it makes law enforcement more comfortable because they know who is here and who is here to do us harm. it helps with the underground economy. it helps distribute to the tax base. there are so many reasons why any comprehensive immigration bill has to include a pathway to citizenship. >> there are a lot of folks on the right and there are some who aren't on the right who said the pathway should include some penal
. >> senator john mccain said any bill must include a pathway to citizenship. senator bob menendez agreed and he gave four reasons why. >> americans support it in poll after poll. latino voters expect it. the democrats want it and republicans need it. >> is that really what this boils down to? >> well i think that the topic of comprehensive immigration reform is one i have worked on for more than ten years in the congress. and it is time. i mean, i just think that for so...
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chuck schumer of morning and john mccain of arizona were two of the senators. here is what they said today. >> other bipartisan groups of senators have stood in the same spot before trumpeting similar proposals, but we believe this will be the year congress finally gets it done. the politics on this issue have been turned upside down. for the first time ever, there's more political risk in opposing immigration reform than in supporting it. >> what's going on now is unacceptable. in real what's been created is a de facto amnesty. we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes, and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> here is what the plan includes. the creation of what the sthors call a tough but fair path to stip. strengthening border security with new tools. establishing an effective employment vir fication system to prevent employers from hiring illegal workers. most will be given a provisional status. they would have to go to the ba
chuck schumer of morning and john mccain of arizona were two of the senators. here is what they said today. >> other bipartisan groups of senators have stood in the same spot before trumpeting similar proposals, but we believe this will be the year congress finally gets it done. the politics on this issue have been turned upside down. for the first time ever, there's more political risk in opposing immigration reform than in supporting it. >> what's going on now is unacceptable. in...
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arizona republican senator john mccain says he and other senators plan to announce the key principles of their plan a little later this week. >> is there is a new, i think appreciation on both sides of the aisle, including maybe more important on the republican side of the aisle that we have to enact a comprehensive immigration reform bill. >> reporter: now, senator mccain said on abc news "this week" that that plan would include a way for undocumented immigrants to gain a way to citizenship. when asked how do you convince republicans of that he pointed to the last election, miguel, where republican mitt romney got just 26% of the latino vote, 71% backed president obama. and those are numbers that stand out to the gop. >> oh, the numbers, yes, i'm sure they do no mystery why the president is in nevada, certainly want to paint that state blue as well what is your sense of it, can -- will congress come together in the math has changed enor mousily on immigration politics. ly be able to get his reforms through congress? >> reporter: we are hearing more optimism from both sides of congres
arizona republican senator john mccain says he and other senators plan to announce the key principles of their plan a little later this week. >> is there is a new, i think appreciation on both sides of the aisle, including maybe more important on the republican side of the aisle that we have to enact a comprehensive immigration reform bill. >> reporter: now, senator mccain said on abc news "this week" that that plan would include a way for undocumented immigrants to gain a...
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when, by the way, that sank john mccain's first attempt at the primary. but, the difference now is a lost election, the fact that republicans got 27% of the hispanic vote when they should be getting 40%. and you have a very attractive, popular conservative leading the charge and i think there will be conservatives who are not on the boat but having marco rubio out there and out front on this is key and will be good for the republican party. >> it is risky for rubio. we have to be clear on that. while he's extremely popular, and again, we all like him, there is a divide here and the -- in the republican party. we have 23 million americans either unemployed or under employed and the idea that this will be' boon to the economy, tell that to the middle class worker in ohio who sees his pag wages stagnated and people unemployed for long term periods of time. it is a tough deal for them. >> the difficulty for the republican party, chris, you have a disconnect between primary politics and general election politics and marco r b rubio understands is it does not d
when, by the way, that sank john mccain's first attempt at the primary. but, the difference now is a lost election, the fact that republicans got 27% of the hispanic vote when they should be getting 40%. and you have a very attractive, popular conservative leading the charge and i think there will be conservatives who are not on the boat but having marco rubio out there and out front on this is key and will be good for the republican party. >> it is risky for rubio. we have to be clear on...
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blunder since vietnam, a statement challenged by senator john mccain. >> were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. >> i think the committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge? >> i'll explain why i made those comments... >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> reporter: hagel explained he opposed the surge because it cost 1,200 lives for a temporary victory. hagel, a former infantry soldier wounded twice in the vietnam war, said every war decision made in washington should consider the soldier first. >> i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war, so i did question a surge. i always ask the question, "is this going to be worth the sacrifice?" because there will be sacrifice. >> reporter: but that was one of the few times hagel rebutted a direct question. he avoided explaining policy positions so often, republicans complained he hadn't answered basic questions. the administration fired back, scott, saying repub
blunder since vietnam, a statement challenged by senator john mccain. >> were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. >> i think the committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge? >> i'll explain why i made those comments... >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> reporter: hagel explained he opposed...
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i think john mccain and lindsey graham's concerns are real. in the end they probably will not carry the day but in a critical time with the threats we face it's totally legitimate whoever the nominee is to be grilled on what their point of. >> one final issue before we go. big night, the super bowl, the ads have been sold, 3.8 to $4 million for a 0-second ad. this year a little something different. we've seen so many before the game. my favorite is going to nominate it first, the volkswagen come on be happy ad. ♪ ♪ took my love >> wait. >> i like that one, as well. jorge, your pick. >> godaddy.com between the model and the -- went on and on and on. i think it was really great and i think it's going to be commercial. >> there's bar ralphly and she's going to lip lock with that young man that you see right there. >> all right. well, the mercedes ad with the devil, willem dafoe as the devil caught my attention mostly because of the background music. i remember when the rolling stones sang about, you know, making fun of ads which say it can be
i think john mccain and lindsey graham's concerns are real. in the end they probably will not carry the day but in a critical time with the threats we face it's totally legitimate whoever the nominee is to be grilled on what their point of. >> one final issue before we go. big night, the super bowl, the ads have been sold, 3.8 to $4 million for a 0-second ad. this year a little something different. we've seen so many before the game. my favorite is going to nominate it first, the...
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we saw john mccain was at the luncheon. we know his vice presidential running mate paul ryan also attended the luncheon. he's certainly kept a low profile since the election. but i tell you, i spoke to a top aide, erin, and the top aide told me that mitt romney might not be very public right now, but expect him to certainly come out in the future. they don't know exactly when. mitt romney is going to remain political. he will try to remain relevant in the republican party. but he also knows that he's no longer the head of the republican party. there's a new generation for that. mitt romney, out of sight, out of mind, but i think we'll see him come back. >> a new generation that's very diverse. we'll see if they can possibly succeed at getting their voting electorate to become as diverse as some of their leadership seems to be. thanks very much, mark preston. >>> anti-abortion activists u flocked to washington today for the annual march for life, calling for new laws to outlaw abortion. one of the most powerful anti-abortion
we saw john mccain was at the luncheon. we know his vice presidential running mate paul ryan also attended the luncheon. he's certainly kept a low profile since the election. but i tell you, i spoke to a top aide, erin, and the top aide told me that mitt romney might not be very public right now, but expect him to certainly come out in the future. they don't know exactly when. mitt romney is going to remain political. he will try to remain relevant in the republican party. but he also knows...
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is john mccain right? >> no, he really isn't. he's no more right this time than he was back in, what, '87, when he and another gang tried to put together a very similar bill. he and a member of that time of it was called the mccain-kennedy bill. very similar in every respect to what i have seen so far. i must admit i haven't seen the whole thing. from what i heard about it, very similar. at any rate, it's the same rhetoric, and it's just as wrong today as it was then. the reason, i mean, this is amazing, honestly. somehow, republicans, many republicans, mccain being one of them, have been led to believe that all we have to do as republicans is soften the stance on immigration, and we will begin to erode the democrat base that exists in the hispanic community. certainly, there is nothing to prove that. honestly, nothing, not one shred of evidence. not one poll ever taken shows hispanics saying, yeah, that's it. hispanics vote for democrats for exactly the same reason that other people vote for democrats. they want bigger governmen
is john mccain right? >> no, he really isn't. he's no more right this time than he was back in, what, '87, when he and another gang tried to put together a very similar bill. he and a member of that time of it was called the mccain-kennedy bill. very similar in every respect to what i have seen so far. i must admit i haven't seen the whole thing. from what i heard about it, very similar. at any rate, it's the same rhetoric, and it's just as wrong today as it was then. the reason, i mean,...
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john mccain actually told us the truth. they are doing it so they can win elections. meanwhile, our current immigration fiasco takes a tremendous toll. now, listen to some of the callers on my radio show who told me how the current immigration system is tearing their families apart. >> i'm a new citizen. i'm married to my wife. she's from nicaragua. for the last 18 years. we have three beautiful children. i have paid thousands and thousands of dollars in legal fees to get her residency, at least that. and all immigration, all they want to do is take my wife out of this country, send her to nicaragua for 18 months to five years waiting for her papers over there. why they want to do that? she don't have no family over there. she was brought here when she was a child. >> i married my wife here in madison, who is a philippine citizen. she was in this country legally under papers, whatever she needed. we got married. we filed the appropriate papers with the government, and then her father passed away and we had to go to the philippines to attend her father's funeral. unbek
john mccain actually told us the truth. they are doing it so they can win elections. meanwhile, our current immigration fiasco takes a tremendous toll. now, listen to some of the callers on my radio show who told me how the current immigration system is tearing their families apart. >> i'm a new citizen. i'm married to my wife. she's from nicaragua. for the last 18 years. we have three beautiful children. i have paid thousands and thousands of dollars in legal fees to get her residency,...
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senator john mccain acknowledged that reality yesterday. >> give you a little straight talk. look at the last election. look at the last election. we are lose drag mat i canly the hispanic vote which we think should be ours for a variety of reasons and we've got to understand that. >> reporter: so, a senate bill on immigration reform could be debated this spring. we'll see how that goes, bill. bill: thank you, steve. steve centanni in washington. martha has a bit more. martha: lawmakers of course made the round on the sunday talk shows and they expressed their support for the deal. here is some of that. >> cautiously optimistic. someone who spent years between the house and the senate trying to comprehensive immigration reform i'm cautiously optimistic. i see the right spirit. i see things that were once off the table for agreement and discussion being on the table. serious pathway forward. >> i think those rubio principles do a really good job of adhering to the founding principles, respecting the rule of law and respecting those who came here for a better life. martha: all
senator john mccain acknowledged that reality yesterday. >> give you a little straight talk. look at the last election. look at the last election. we are lose drag mat i canly the hispanic vote which we think should be ours for a variety of reasons and we've got to understand that. >> reporter: so, a senate bill on immigration reform could be debated this spring. we'll see how that goes, bill. bill: thank you, steve. steve centanni in washington. martha has a bit more. martha:...
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i'll ask one of the senators behind the bipartisan plan, john mccain. he's here to talk about immigration, guns, the upcoming confirmation hearing for defense secretary nominee chuck hagel, john mccain live this hour. >>> plus, a royal shake-up. a queen announces she's abdicating. her country is about to get a new king. >>> i'm wolf blitzer. >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> a new push to tackle one of the most contentious issues facing washington. just about 90 minutes or so ago, a bipartisan group of senators laid out a framework for an immigration reform bill. this comes as the white house is working on its own immigration bill and president obama will address the issue tomorrow in las vegas. the bipartisan senate plan includes a path to citizenship, but illegal immigrants will have to undergo a background check and pay a fine and back taxes before gaining legal status in the united states. all that is contingent on securing borders. the proposal provides for increased use of drones, more
i'll ask one of the senators behind the bipartisan plan, john mccain. he's here to talk about immigration, guns, the upcoming confirmation hearing for defense secretary nominee chuck hagel, john mccain live this hour. >>> plus, a royal shake-up. a queen announces she's abdicating. her country is about to get a new king. >>> i'm wolf blitzer. >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> a new push to...